Note to the reader:
This is not just a personal feud between me and this liar. It is rather between the good Muslims and those minority evil and cultist ones who apostatize innocent Muslims for no reason!
Jalal and his minority-likes are the real problem of Islam!
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Responding to Jalal Abualrub's (abul-rub, abu-alrub) challenge to me on the Hadiths:
First of all before we start, I want the reader to see which Hadiths and Bible verses I believe are closest to the Truth and which I reject.
While I don't like this, but the time has come where this web site, www.answering-christianity.com, needs to directly face the Wahabi cult (with the exception to some good people among them), who see no Muslim on the face of this earth except them, head on and to shut their lies and insults against GOD Almighty and Islam once and for all!
Since Jalal Abul-Rub is a polite person, unlike a previous Wahabi foul-mouthed trash whom I personally silenced and crushed by causing him to close his web site for good, then I will deal with him with respect.
Here is an email that Mr. Jalal Abul-Rub sent to his email list, which included me:
| as-salamu alaikum warahmatullah in several emails, i urged br. osama to reconsider his unacceptable stance against hadeeth, but he did not accept my appeals to him nor gave me, as i repeatedly challenged him, an example to one hadeeth that contradicts the quran, just one authentic hadeeth....thus, i have decided not to be directly involved with his website or respond on a personal level to his emails to me: i am a salafi, just like br nadir is, and to me, rejecting one authnetic hadeeth is rejecting all ahadeeth and also rejecting the quran...to me, attack on hadeeth coming from muslims is more dangerous and serious than attack on hadeeth coming from non-muslims....this is my faith, this is what i believe in and i will never compromise on this with anyone....thus, as i said to br osama, it will not benefit me or osama if i -even though i am not a scholar- divert my attention from my ever growing projects to responding to his stance against the prophet's ahadeeth: time is really short and the attack is coming from every direction, so we must concentrate on what we think is more beneficial for islam....thus, i urge you both to leave this matter at this, and let each one of us go on the manhaj he chose for hismelf in islam since advice has been given......finally, i again challenge everyone to bring one authentic hadeeth, just one, that contradicts the quran, i think that this is a fair challenge............. as-salamu alaikum warahmatullah |
First of all, if I recall correctly, the only emails (two emails both at the same time sent directly to him on a personal level) I sent after he did not respond to my last email to him were regarding Sam Shamoun's challenge to him for a debate. A Muslim brother forwarded me his email conversation with Shamoun regarding the debate setup. Since I wanted to help him, and to honor Islam by contributing to him becoming victorious in the debate ONLY FOR THE SAKE OF ISLAM, I decided to contact him knowing that it is highly possible that he won't reply.
I look out for Islam, and Islam and Allah Almighty come before anything else. Otherwise, I have no practical reason to even consider emailing you.
Now in regards to you rejecting one hadith it is like rejecting all hadiths and the Noble Quran, let us see if your big words and salafi-arrogance will stand the test:
What is the punishment for a married person's adultery (male or female)?
Hadiths:
'Ubada b. as-Samit reported: "Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: Receive (teaching) from me, receive (teaching) from me. Allah has ordained a way for those (women). When an unmarried male commits adultery with an unmarried female (they should receive) one hundred lashes and banishment for one year. And in case of married male committing adultery with a married female, they shall receive one hundred lashes and be stoned to death. (Translation of Sahih Muslim, Book 17, The Book Pertaining to Punishments Prescribed by Islam (Kitab Al-Hudud), Number 4191)"
Bible:
Leviticus 20:10 "If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death."
Noble Quran:
"The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication,- flog each of them with a hundred stripes: Let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by God, if ye believe in God and the Last Day: and let a party of the Believers witness their punishment. (The Noble Quran, 24:2)"
Yet, we don't know if the Noble Quran came to nullify the Jewish Law or not!
Narrated Ash-Shaibani: "I asked 'Abdullah bin Abi 'Aufa about the Rajam (stoning somebody to death for committing illegal sexual intercourse). He replied, 'The Prophet carried out the penalty of Rajam (stoning to death),' I asked, 'Was that before or after the revelation of Surat-an-Nur? (Noble Verse 24:2)' He replied, 'I do not know.' (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Punishment of Disbelievers at War with Allah and His Apostle, Volume 8, Book 82, Number 824)"
So according to Hadith #824, Noble Verse 24:2 quite possibly came to abrogate the Jewish Law regarding stoning to death the adulterer and/or adulteress, and to only limit the punishment to 100 lashes for both single and married.
Jalal's first contradiction:
Jalal is now rejecting the Sahih Bukhari Hadith, Volume 8, Book 82, Number 824. Therefore, Jalal is now rejecting the entire Noble Quran, according to his statement above!
Is Muta (temporary marriage) allowed in Islam?
Hadiths (yes):
Abu Nadra reported: "While I was in the company of Jabir b. Abdullah, a person came to him and said that Ibn 'Abbas and Ibn Zubair differed on the two types of Mut'a (Tamattu of Hajj 1846 and Tamattu with women), whereupon Jabir said: We used to do these two during the lifetime of Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him). Umar then forbade us to do them, and so we did not revert to them. (Translation of Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3250)"
It was the second Caliph Omar (Umar) who forbade it, not the Prophet, nor even the first Caliph Abu Baker!
Hadiths (no):
"Rabi' b. Sabra reported that his father went on an expedition with Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) during the Victory of Mecca, and we stayed there for fifteen days (i. e. for thirteen full days and a day and a night), and Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) permitted us to contract temporary marriage with women. So I and another person of my tribe went out, and I was more handsome than he, whereas he was almost ugly. Each one of us had a cloaks, My cloak was worn out, whereas the cloak of my cousin was quite new. As we reached the lower or the upper side of Mecca, we came across a young woman like a young smart long-necked she-camel. We said: Is it possible that one of us may contract temporary marriage with you? She said: What will you give me as a dower? Each one of us spread his cloak. She began to cast a glance on both the persons. My companion also looked at her when she was casting a glance at her side and he said: This cloak of his is worn out, whereas my cloak is quite new. She, however, said twice or thrice: There is no harm in (accepting) this cloak (the old one). So I contracted temporary marriage with her, and I did not come out (of this) until Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) declared it forbidden. (Translation of Sahih Muslim, Book 8, Number 3253)"
The Noble Quran (no):
"It is not lawful for thee (to marry more) women after this, nor to change them for (other) wives, even though their beauty attract thee, except any thy right hand should possess (as handmaidens): and God doth watch over all things. (The Noble Quran, 33:52)"
"If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice. (The Noble Quran, 4:3)"
It would never be fair for a married Muslim who has permanent wife or wives, to exploit other women and to marry them temporarily in a marriage that is intentionally destined for divorce. Allah Almighty clearly commanded the Muslims to only marry one if they feel they won't be capable to be just and fair in the marriage.
Jalal's second contradiction:
Jalal is now rejecting the Sahih Muslim Hadith, Book 008, Number 3250. Therefore, Jalal is now rejecting the entire Noble Quran, according to his statement above!
Quite hilarious indeed!
Mr. Jalal, according to your logic, you are a disbeliever in Noble Quran!
Why am I being harsh on Mr. Jalal?
It's because his twisted views are very insulting to GOD Almighty and His Divine Revelations! "rejecting one hadith is like rejecting the entire Noble Quran" is an absurd statement at best!
For him as a salafi, the so-called "authentic" collection of the Hadiths are equal to the Noble Quran. They are, to him and his cult, perfect and error-free. Yet ironically, given the small examples from the many out there that I quoted from the "authentic" collections, his view is soundly debunked!
What bothers me from all of this is the fact that these salafies or wahabis give themselves so much authority and they act too arrogantly toward other Muslims to a point where they declare them as infidels. Jalal in his email indirectly declared me as an infidel who rejects the Noble Quran. He just said it in a more politically-correct manner. But the meaning is still the same!
Here is where I stand:
I believe that the Noble Quran is the Perfect and Divine Word of GOD Almighty. Every single Noble Verse that exists in this Holy Book is a Divine Revelation. The Hadiths, on the other hand, like the Bible and its Apocrypha, are full of Truth and are also full of man-made lies!
So for Jalal to say that, for instance, the collection of "Sahih Bukhari authentic hadiths" is like the collection of the Noble Quran in sacredness is indeed an absurd and very insulting statement to GOD Almighty Himself! And I have a personal problem with that!
Like the Bible and its Apocrypha, the Hadiths are full of lies and corruption put in the Prophet's mouth, and they also contain Truth from the Prophet himself. That is why we need the Noble Quran to be the measuring stick and the standard to filter out the Truth from falsehood in those collections (hadiths, bible, apocrypha, etc....).
For instance, the Noble Quran Commands us to Pray. The Hadiths give the details of the sacred Rituals on how to perform the Prayer and Prostration, and how many Prostrations, etc.... The Noble Quran Commands us to perform Hajj (Pilgrimage) to Mecca. The Hadiths, again, give us the details of the Sacred Rituals on how to perform the Hajj.
Etc....
In my opinion, rejecting one hadith can not be viewed as rejecting the whole Noble Quran, since I can't believe that two hadiths contradicting each others are both authentic. Yet, Jalal and I differ here. Yet, I respect his opinion. This is a difference of opinion we can't agree about.
What parts of the Hadiths and the Bible do Muslims believe are closest to the Truth, and Why?
Jalal Abul-Rub's (the dajjal) section. His hypocrisy, backbiting and cowardliness are all exposed here. Everyone is an infidel to this dajjal.